Comments on: Quantifying the Impact of Androgen Therapy On the Female Larynx http://transguys.com/ref/research/quantifying-impact-of-androgen-therapy-on-female-larynx The Internet's Magazine for Transgender Men Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:03:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Euan http://transguys.com/ref/research/quantifying-impact-of-androgen-therapy-on-female-larynx/comment-page-1#comment-6128 Euan Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:06:14 +0000 http://transguys.com/?p=626#comment-6128 I wonder if cultural difference will play a considerable role in this experiment. I have to say, men with Asian background tend to have higher voice than men with Western background. I wonder if they took that into account during the experiment? I wonder if cultural difference will play a considerable role in this experiment. I have to say, men with Asian background tend to have higher voice than men with Western background. I wonder if they took that into account during the experiment?

]]> By: Vica http://transguys.com/ref/research/quantifying-impact-of-androgen-therapy-on-female-larynx/comment-page-1#comment-1554 Vica Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:59:27 +0000 http://transguys.com/?p=626#comment-1554 I have some doubts about the measurements carried out in the experiment. It is emphasized in the article that the subject is a singer, yet the pitch range measures (if correct) indicate not only a range that hampers singing but makes everyday speech monotonous. Before the androgen therapy the range was 140-430 Hz, which equals 19 semitones. Considering that there are 12 semitones in an octave, the measures indicate that this singer had less than 2 octaves at his disposal. The normative data for female and male teachers (professional voice users but not singing professionals) is hovering around 24 semitones (2 octaves). There are two possibilities to explain the results in the article: either the measures were not mapping the entire pitch range, or the subject had already had a narrowed pitch range before the commencement of the androgen therapy (which would have warranted a note in the article and a thorough laryngeal examination to begin with). By the 3rd or 4th month, the author suggests that the singing pitch range narrowed down to 90-201 Hz, which is 13 semitones (an octave and a semitone). If this measure was correct, the singer could have not sung anything more involved than "Row row row your boat" (which covers exactly one octave). A pitch range of 13 semitones is actually pathologically small and as such should have been indicated in the article. But the fact that the author emphasized that the singing career was not harmed indicates that the measures we see in the article are not truly indicative of what happened to the singer's larynx during transitioning. I have some doubts about the measurements carried out in the experiment. It is emphasized in the article that the subject is a singer, yet the pitch range measures (if correct) indicate not only a range that hampers singing but makes everyday speech monotonous.

Before the androgen therapy the range was 140-430 Hz, which equals 19 semitones. Considering that there are 12 semitones in an octave, the measures indicate that this singer had less than 2 octaves at his disposal. The normative data for female and male teachers (professional voice users but not singing professionals) is hovering around 24 semitones (2 octaves). There are two possibilities to explain the results in the article: either the measures were not mapping the entire pitch range, or the subject had already had a narrowed pitch range before the commencement of the androgen therapy (which would have warranted a note in the article and a thorough laryngeal examination to begin with).

By the 3rd or 4th month, the author suggests that the singing pitch range narrowed down to 90-201 Hz, which is 13 semitones (an octave and a semitone). If this measure was correct, the singer could have not sung anything more involved than “Row row row your boat” (which covers exactly one octave). A pitch range of 13 semitones is actually pathologically small and as such should have been indicated in the article.

But the fact that the author emphasized that the singing career was not harmed indicates that the measures we see in the article are not truly indicative of what happened to the singer’s larynx during transitioning.

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